Ultimate Sacrifice Memorial Guest Log
My 4 years in the USAF were much too late for warbirds. I feel truly indebted to people like you for keeping warbirds available for viewing and actual flights. Please accept my sincere Thank You to all combat veterans.
just curious...any pics so far...thx...i am sure i read something of this find a while back but can not remember the details...again thx much.
My wife and I were treated to a Bob Ready guided tour of the Restoration project hanger last week. Bob was a very enthusiastic host and gracious tour guide. It is clear that Bob is in love with his work and is proud of the efforts of so many volunteers. The children of a WII B-24 POW we were so pleased to hear the story and the goals of this Memorial project. The unfinished display brought back memories of the precious few personal portrayals of Melvin Schmidt's experiences and a few of his 22 missions as the radio operator aboard "Hitler's Hurse" while in England serving the 8th Army Air Corp. Thanks to all who have contributed to this effort. We are proud to anticipate the dedication of the memorial in our community.
My wife and I were treated to a Bob Ready guided tour of the Restoration project hanger last week. Bob was a very enthusiastic host and gracious tour guide. It is clear that Bob is in love with his work and is proud of the efforts of so many volunteers. The children of a WII B-24 POW we were so pleased to hear the story and the goals of this Memorial project. The display brought back memories of the precious few portrayals of Melvin Schmidt's experiences of his 22 missions about "Hitler's Hurse" while in England 8the Army Air Corp. Thanks to all who have contributed to this effort.
THANKS FOR EVERYTHING WHAT A TREAT ON ALL THIS INFO
This is my first time visiting this site and I was impressed. My family has a long military history dating from Vietnam back to World War II, we need more sites like this to never forget the sacrifices our fighting men and women made so folks like me could write something like this. God bless you all.
I heartily commend you on your restoration efforts, but I must admit to an urge to protest the idea of not completing the restoration to at least a completely assembled static display condition on her fully-extended "down-n-locked" landing gear. I feel this would be a much more fitting tribute to her crew since I would assume they were fully intent on fighting the war in that aircraft, rather than sitting in separate pieces. I believe you would be much more liable to obtain donations for the project if that were the intent, as well. Thank you for your efforts so far - I wish you all the best.
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I have always been interested in the WWII planes; even worked with the CAF for a while in Victoria as PIO Officer. My Dad is also interested in the history as is my son. My Dad has told me that a friend of his was the navigator on the 'unnamed B-17 that went down in 1944. I wonder if he is one of your 4 surviving crew members? Ash Thornburg is his name. I think we all need to be reminded of what happened and what our country fought for during WWII, so that it never happens again. "Lest We Forget" is the motto (as I remember it) of the Commemorative Air Force
May God bless the B-17 and all that flew on her
Keep up the good work.
My father, Willard P. Chandler was a tail gunner in a B-17 bomber. Although I dont know exactly what group he belonged to or what base in England he was stationed, I do know his plane was shot down over a mission in Germany, it was the crews 23rd mission. He was the only surviver from his plane and spent the rest of the war in luft stalac 6. I've always had a connection to the crews and men who flew the B-17's, I guess my dad passed it on to me when he passed away, i was only 4. To all of you that survive today, Thank You for your dedication and heart. For if it was not for you, we would not be who we are today. God Bless
This website should be required reading for American History classes.
What is the status of the project in Blue Ash? Are you guys still operating in the area? I have a grandfather who was a waist gunner out of Nuthampstead and we came across the literature, but have not heard much for a while. Thank you for your time.
This is so fascinating. My friend, Charlie Frey, a veteran, showed me the display at WPAFM. I had never heard of this rescue before. It's really an amazing story!
Bob Ready; It is a wonderful thing that you are doing. As you know, the PBY-5A rescuer of "My Gal Sal", then LT,Retired CAPT Dick Parunak,USN, was a long time friend of mine. Not so well known, the six Navy PBY's of VP-93 were assigned to the U.S.Coast Guard, not to USAAF, in Greenland in mid-May 1942 in advance of start of the USAAF "Bolero" flights to England. "My Gal Sal" was the first of many planes to crash on the Ice Cap during WW2, and was LT Parunak's third of four rescues during June-July 1942. USAAF had no rescue aircraft there. Air control systems were still being installed, and USCG ships served as visual aides to navigation & radio beacons at the start; the USCGC Comanche did this at the fjord entrance to BW-1 for the first flights of B-17's that began on June 26,1942.
The B17 has always been my favorite aircraft. I had an uncle that flew B17s with the 388th and my father-in-law was a tail gunner in the same gp. I did my term paper in college on the history and development of the 17. I went to the 50th aniversary of the Flying Fortress in Wa with my in-laws in 1985. I have my Uncle Bob's original pilots manual for the 17, there are more pages in the pilots manual for a single engine Cessna. I remember doing research on B17s, and this was long before the days of computers, but I read about My Gal Sal. The pictures I saw of her on the ice cap were taken before time did all that damage. There might have been an article in Reader Digest about her. I know there was kind of a mini bio about Shoo Shoo Baby in that magazine. I have one question, if your not going to have her sit on her gear, will she be mounted on somekind of pedestal? Someday I wil have to stop by there when we go to Va and Nc. We have 2 daughters out east, one is a vetinarian, the other is a captain in the Air Force. Vanessa is a weapons system office flying on F15E's out of Seymore Johnson AFB. 3rd generation military flier I might add. You have to really be proud how this B17 looks now compared to how she looked on the icecap. Your team has done a remarkable job of restoring another B17. Congrats to you and your staff. Respectfully Doug Price Crown Point, Indiana
prayers and thanks to all who sacrificed.
we can never repay,god bless you all
Great restoration, great memorial to brave men.
Mr. Stinson, My family and I, navigator Leo Frazier's family, saw your post and were very interested. I couldn't get your email to work properly. Would you please email me, we are very interested in obtaining a copy of Ralf's diary if you are willing to share. Thank you very much Joe Frazier
this crew flew 25 missions then whent on and did 28 more in another group crazy!!!!!!!!!!! i did 23 as a tailgunner in the bloody 100TH BG before i was shot down as you must know capt rosenthal ROSIES RIVETERS flew 52 missions all in the same gp the 100th he holds the record!! MY GAL SAL did 53 but with two diff groups dont count
Ralph Stinson was my uncle. Im proud of his sacrifice. I have many of his personal effects he had on sals final flight including the diary he kept while on the ice cap and his flight jacket. many thanks to bob and his crews.i have enjoyed following the progress.
Always pleased to see great work being done on a wonderful aircraft.
MY HEART FELT THANKS TO ALL OUR BRAVE YOUNG MEN WHO FOUGHT AND SOME DIED FOR OUR FREEDOM! THANKS AGAIN TO ALL WHO FLEW AND FOUGHT AND ARE STILL WITH US. MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL! CECIL WOLFE AGE50
Have visited Maddingley where many of your brave boys lie near Duxford where our B17 'Sally B'honours them each time she flys.
Glad you saved her. I've looked at that wartime picture of My Gal Sal sitting on the ice since childhood. Good Luck!
My father was stationed at Snetterson during the latter part of the war, from late 1944 until May of 1945, when he ended up in Texas training Chinese pilots. He flew the B-17, was in the 96th Bombing Group, 337th Squadron. His files were lost in the 1973 fire in St. Louis and my family is trying to find out as much information about his time at Snetterson as we can. My father was killed in August of 1946 in a routine training flight back in the states. This book is quite nice and a great tribute to those who made the ultimate sacrifice during World War II. My father flew 35 bombing missions and came home in one piece, only to get killed back in the states.
I am a great nephew of Wayne Heckendorn, his brother Norman Heckendorn was my grandfather. Thanks for maintaining this history!
Sure would like to be around for the dedication,but at my age time is running out.
My thanks to you for posting this site. I first heard of 'Sal' while reading about another aircraft from that same flight. None other than the P-38 now called Glacier Girl. Sal of course being a B-17 is my favorite aircraft. My uncle Fred Young was an instructor pilot on B-17s and later in the war B-29s. Between hearing his 'war stories' and growing up near Wright-Patterson AFB. I was and am still quite enamored by B-17s. Please post some pictures of the restoration when possible. All the best. Sincerely Craig Williams
I did some searching and not only found the crew list, but a picture with my grandfather in it. Thank you for your restoration that means so much to me now.
Dear Mr. Ready, Infinite thanks to you and all involved in the USM as well as the USM Foundation. Have you ever thought of creating merchandise with the image of "My Gal Sal"? The Cincinnati Warbirds use a place called Cafe' Press, I believe, where it does not cost them anything, out of pocket, and a great deal of the proceeds from the sales of the merchandise (which can be anything from t-shirts, coffee mugs, hats, clocks, etc.) could go to help you and the Foundation. Just a thought and a great way that everyone can not only show their respect and honor via a contribution but also a way in which people can get the word out about what you are doing. Infinite thanks again! Angel
My grandfather, Kenneth Bright was on the plane when it went down in Greenland. He was on his way to England and hitched a ride on My Gal Sal for the trip during the war. If anyone knows of anyplace that I can find his name on a flight record of passengers, I would really appreciate it.
Congratulations on the progress of "My Gal Sal." My Dad (Charles Fink from Cincinnati) was a Flight Engineer Gunner on a B-17 during WWII. I'm still looking for anyone that served with him in the 8th Air Force, 351st Bomb Group, 508th Squadron, 94th Wing. If you know of anyone, please e-mail me. Thanks!!
My girlfriend, Pam Morgan, and her mother just returned from the 483rd Bomb Group reunion in Covington, Ky, last week where her father, Harding Morgan was honored as at a memroial service (he passed away this past year). He was a mechanic on their B-17's during World War II, and she told me about your restoration project with "My Gal Sal"! As a former Aerospace Engineer (for the Navy) and a Vietnam Vet., I always find stories like this one facinating! All the best! John "Sandy" Sanders
Thank you for all of the awesome work you have accomplished. What a wonderful trubite to our Heros. Thank you to My Father for his gift of valor for my freedom. Henry P. Burlew WWII Rear Tail Gunner B17 483rd. I could see the tears in his eyes tonight when you started that B17 engine. Thank You Again. DAB
Stopped to see the restoration yesterday. Wow, what a detailed and impressive memorial you've created! Thanks.
Hello, I was just looking for any info on my grandfather's time during the war and I came across this site. He was at first in the 12th air force 96th squadron 2nd bombardment group, and later became the 15th air force 5th wing. they were moved to Foggia Italy from North Africa. The name of his plane was the tuff or tough titty. He was the tail gunner. His name is Ray Anderson from Clarke county Alabama. fortunately he is still alive , but unfortunately this is the only info he has given me in my 35 years. He doesn't like to talk about it. I think the site is great, keep up the good work.
Mike Moriarty
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I was there today with my car for the car show. I am and always have a been a WWII history buff and have always liked the stories about the fighters and the bombers. When I heard and read the story of this plane and it's crew, it made me reflect on what we take for granted now. I would like to maybe help out in the future with sweat equity and my neighbor might want to also.
My grandfather was with the 99th bomb group/15th AAF in WW11. the B-17 has always had a special place in our hearts. Good luck and God speed in your dedication to our men and women who served our great nation so proudly!
Hi, I stumbled across your site doing research for another project I just wanted to say thanks for putting this site together. It's a great resource, and it also does a wonderful job commemorating the memory and the history of our amazing heroes from that generation.
Love the site, great job!
Great site! I love the pictures and it's amazing what you're doing with the restoration.
Thanks for the useful site. Keep up the good work. God bless you and keep you.
My Uncle George Whitham lost his life as a B17 tail gunner. Although details are very sketchy, it is my understanding he died while flying a mission over Laurient, France. We believe he was a crew member on the Alabama Exterminator I and II. His first plane crash landed in Greenland. After being reassigned to the exterminator II, he flew his fatal mission on another plane. Seems that planes tailgunner could not fly the mission. I would appreciate any information. Best regards
Would anyone know anything about my brother Joseph E. Adams, entered service from Altoona, Pa. Shot down in England, on April 5, 1945. Flying in a B17, I believe something was wrong with the plane, and on their returning to England, they were shot down. He was the oldest of 9 children, and I was the youngest, only 3 years at that time. I would love to find out just what happened that day, and to their plane. Hope I hear from someone who may know something. Thank you so very much. Barbara Adams
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How is Sal? Have you finished the project? Where is your display located? I would like to visit. Thank you, Leon C. Gall
This is a fantastic site. I love retracing the history of WWII, I have also been to "thelostsquadron.com", the story of one of the P-38's in "operation bolero". . I believe it is in Middleboro, Ky, now fully restored and flying again. I hope to visit it someday. These are truly amazing stories, both the history, and the recovery! They need to be recorded and preserved for our future generations to understand what sacrifice is all about. My father John M. Mulcahey was in the army air corp in WWII. He was stationed in the Panamal Canal zone around 1940-41, then volunteered to go to Europe, 1942-45. He returned home 1945, and was discharged from the army at Ft. Knox Ky. I have had no luck tracing his service to our country. Anyone know of any links or places to check for information on veterans of WWII? The army dept. of personnel records says most were destroyed in a fire in the 60's or 70's. My father passed away in 1985, before I fully understood the meaning of sacrifice. Great site guys!! best wishes, Rick Mulcahey
I thoroughly enjoyed reading at your site. Bookmarked and will visit back soon.
First Lt and pilot B-17 Class 44A- Overseas December 45 to November 45-15th AF-2nd BG-5th Wing- 20th Sq (operations officer) based Foggia (Amendola Field) Italy. 24 missions when WWII in Europe ended April 45.
Very nice B-17E! it's good to see the original Boeing planes that defined the future shape of the Flying Fortress!
Thanks for the chance to sign your guestbook. Enjoyed the site.
Just calling in again to see how you are progressing. Looks great guys!. Looking forward to the latest updates and pics of the "joining" between the forward and aft sections of "Sal".
Congratulations on a job well done!
Looking for information about "Fred Cirillo." He served in the 49th Bomb Squadron at Langley Field in 1935. Also looking for information on "Dick Barlow or Berlow" from the 96th Bomb Squadron at Langley Field. Any information or advice on how to track down information is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
GOOD JOB GENTLEMEN AND LADIES. PROUD TO SEE YOU PRESERVING AND PERPETUATING HISTORY. I AM A MEMBER OF BUTLER COUNTY WARBIRDS, I BUILD REPLICA MODEL AIRCRAFT FOR VETERANS, FREE OF CHARGE. I ENJOY BUILDING MODELS AND I CAN DO MORE THAN A HAND SHAKE AND A THANK YOU FOR OUR VETERANS. AM CURRENTLY BUILDING A SEE THROUGH B-17G TO HONOR JACK KELLER AND THE CREW OF OL SCRAP IRON. THANKS TO YOUR WEB SITE ON MY GAL SAL, I HAVE SOLVED MANY INTERIOR DETAIL MYSTERIES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. WE (BCW) WILL BE AT BLUE ASH AIRSHOW AGAIN, I WILL STOP BY AND THANK YOU IN PERSON AS WELL AS MAKE A DONATION TO THE CAUSE. I MAY NEED TO PRINT SOME PHOTOS FOR DETAIL REFERENCE ONLY, HOPE THIS IS OK. P.S. MY E-MAIL DOES NOT WORK. LETS ALL KEEP DOING OUR PART TO REMEMBER COURAGE AND SACRAFICE!
Thanks for your fantastic site. I've just posted an account that your visitors might appreciate at http://www.timothynichols.com/page10.html This is the true story of an elderly European gentleman's attempt to thank Americas WWII veterans. I'm really just passing his message along to all veterans I can locate. Thanks. — Tim
Thanks for the news, here i\'m always up to date thanks nice! Keep up that great work!
Many heartfelt thanks to all of the WW11 Heroes. All of them truly paid the Ultimate Sacrifice. They are without a doubt "The Greatest Generation". I am very proud of my Brother, Danny Johnson, who was a part of the Great Generation. He made his sacrifice on the bottom of the ocean on a submarine. I am very proud to have met and worked with Jack Keller, a tailgunner. Member of crew "My Gal Sal". What a wonderful dedicated American. There are not enough words that can truly thank these heroes of WW11. Good luck to My Gal Sal Crew in their endeavors of restoration. GOD BLESS AMERICA
I support the location of My Gal Sal at the Blue Ash Airport site.
Wow! What a remarkable story! As a former USAF pilot myself, I have always appreciated the sacrifice and valor of the WWII airman and can't say enough of the efforts of people like you who are doing so much to see that their service to this country is not forgotten. I hope to come to see the restoration sometime and to contribute something toward that goal!
Dear Sirs, My late father, John Y. T. Ogle, was a flight lieutenant in the RCAF during WWII. He served as gunnery leader with 433 squadron at Skipton-on-Swale, Yorkshire, in Halifax and Lancaster bombers. Father often told me of the admiration he felt for the members of the USAAF in Europe and in the pacific for the skill and dedication they brought to bear in their efforts to defeat the Axis powers with daylight, precision bombing. The war is now sixty years behind us but when I visit aviation museums and see the restored fighters and bombers of the USAAF, the RCAF and the RAF, it makes me think of a time when our countries joined as Allies and spared no efforts to bring an end to tyranny and despotism. It was a time of heroism and unselfishness and we should never forget it. Yours Cordially, Douglas Ogle
Dear Sir, Malmedy, Belgium, near the German border, March 30 2005 Secretary of the Royal Society MALMEDY-FOLKLORE, ( New and young Web site under construction http://users.skynet.be/mamdi/page2.html ) I wish to remember ( on 20-25 pages and pictures ) to the young generations they not endure this cruel period, what the allied force has dune for our Liberty. Since many years everybody knows in Malmedy, that an American airplane crashed on September 12, 1944 near the Ferme Libert by Malmedy, in this time Germany ( country annexed to the III. Reich on Mai, 10 1940. I try to reconstitute the story of the nine crewmembers. Walter H. PRESTON, matricule O-765314, 2nd/Lt, pilot................... Killed, buried Fosse-Namur William E. BENDT, matricule O-823265, 2nd/Lt, co-pilot........................................../POW Orville H. SCHULTZ, matricule T-002870, F/O, Bomber.....................................Rescued Ora Jr A. SPAID, matricule O719166, 2nd/Lt, Navigator.............................. /POW Robert H. EASLEY, matricule 19093915, S/Sergent, Engineer................................. Rescued Roy C. MEYERS, matricule 16082359, Sergent, Radio Opérator................................. Rescued Dorsey E. WILSON, matricule 35760697, Sergent, Gunner........................ Rescued Laurie S. HORNER, matricule 35172737, Sergent, Tail Gunner ........................Rescued Delmar J. GALLOWAY, matricule 39488221, Sergent, Gunner .................Rescued. Particularly I wish pictures of the crew and aircraft 44-6305. As you read it, I have very many difficulties with the English language. Is it possible for you to help me. Maybe you’ll find pictures or other information on « my » crew. Beforehand, thank you very much to give me the possibility to magnify the courage of the young aviators. An old witness of this time, thankful for US help, now forgotten by many Europeans. Philippe F. KRINGS, Secretary
Read in March 2005 Aeroplane Magazine article about restoration of B-17 "MY GAL SAL" in OHIO. I can relate to the situation of recovering and Restoring of a Bomber. I am restoring a twin engine bomber (BRISTOL BOLINGBROKE)at the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum in Hamilton, Ont. I recovered eight abused airframes to restore to flying status One Bolingbroke. I also found it most interesting that my last name is READY, like Bob Ready who is restoring the B-17 In Ohio. Must be something about the Name that drives him and I to pursue the same adventure. It appears we are about six hours apart by car. I think the two of us should get together (the Ready boys) and discuss our common interests. Their is also a article in the same magazine, Pg 70,71,72,& 73, about the recovery of a Bolingbroke in 1980. A Lysander is also being recovered in the same article. We, the Canadian Warplane Museum, have a Lysander which will be completed within the next two months and ready for flight testing. Bob and I have lots in common including the last name. Wayne A. Ready, Coordinator, Bolingbroke Project
I truly enjoyed your website and admire what you are doing. My father, Robert E. Powers was a B-17 Pilot in the 306th Bomb Group, 369th Bombardment Squadron (Fitin Bitin). He was stationed in England from 1943 to 1944. He received the Distinguished Flying Cross, on his first mission as co-pilot. The plane was severely damaged and the pilot was killed at the controls. He had to wrestle the controls from the pilot and safely land the plane. He also received the Air medal 5 times. I just lost my beloved father in June, and am hoping to locate anyone who knew him or any living members of his crew. These men were truly the "Greatest Generation" Thanks Again!!!
What your doing is great. Can't wait to see the end result. History like this is priceless.
ONE OF THE CREW, CPL CARL C BAUMAN WAS MY HALF BROTHER. I WAS IN OHIO TO SEE PART OF THE PLANE AS IT WAS BEING RESTORED. WHAT A TRIBUTE. I HOPE SOMEDAY TO SEE THE FINAL RESTORATION.
How has the project gone? Are you finished? I see no updates for a year or two. Best wishes for a wonderful project. A/3c Leon C. Gall.
My supervisor gave me the link to this website, knowing that my father is a retired Naval Aviator and Veteran of WWII. Also, my daughter's history teacher mentioned this project to us recently. This is one of the most inspirational stories I've heard in a long time. Thank you for what you are doing to preserve the memory of these gallant individuals and their aircraft.
i fully agree.
I was directed to this site while searching for info on my Dad's group. Good luck on the restoration project. I am looking for any tidbits, photos, etc. on the 369th Bombardment Squadron in Bedford, England. Thurleigh. My Dad's name is Frank L. Berg. My Mom was born in Bedford and worked at the base. They married and moved to the US after the war.
Looking forward to a visit to your site sometime this summer.
My brother-in-law was a waist gunner on a B-17 in England in the "The Lucky Bastards of the Bloody Hundreth Squadron" during 1943& 44. He survived 25 missions and attributes that because of the B-17. This is a GREAT site and "My Gal Sal" should be preserved for the memory of the hero's of the B-17's. God Bless you all.
I think it is better to not fly the aircraft because if it gets used it will wear out. The aircraft needs to be a memorial for hopefully forever. It looks like the aircraft has been restored to the highest possible standards. I commend your work!
I live next to U.S.A.A.F base Chelveston that flew B-17.S during W.W.2. Thank you for a great site and thanks for being here (England) that secured our freedom in W.W.2.
My husband, Charlie, was a navigator on a B-17 during the summer of '44. He was with the 15 Air Force, 2nd Bomb Group and stationed in Foggia, Italy. I am glad I have found this web site. Taught navigation in San Marcos, Texas after returning home after his missions.
YOU'RE A GREAT AMERICAN.
Was just simply browsing around aviation sites in general, while thinking of my Dad. He was a pilot in the Navy. He flew the Grumman S-2 tracker and was one of the most intelligent being that I have ever encountered. I guess that being that smart was a pre-requisite to the carreer, (carrier) I'm missing him so badly right now, he was only 57 and I am 35. Far too young to lose such a big figure in my life. I will see to it that something is dedicated in his memory. Thanks for having me, I am also a pilot, not to be confused with an , aviator, says Dad, jokingly as I show him my license.
Would sure like to find the gunner who bailed out of his 17 over France and stayed with the 1301st Engr GS Regt for sometime, until the underground got him back to England. I believe his name was IRVIN CRONE and he was from somewhere in CA. Our outfit was assigned to Patton's 3rd Army in Europe and we got sent straight to Hollandia, New Guinea two weeks after VE Day. Any help appreciated.
Nice site, I have always liked the Flying Forts and what they did to bring the German war machine to it's knees. May God bless all the aviators for their sacrifices.
I was part of the recovery team of My Gal Sal, I was at the Ice Cap when she was recovered. I was just wondering what ever happened to her and if Her home has been built, & where she will be displayed. Please respond if you will. Sincerely, Greg Winschell
Great tribute to we who flew with the great 95th Bomb Group.
I was born and raised in Cincinnati and actually got to come and watch this plane being rebuild. My grandfather was one of the WWII Veterans who was helping you out. And I just wanted to say that looking back on all the pictures is truly amazing. All of the hard work really paid off. I would love to see some pictures of the whole finished product. If anyone has some, please write back to me. Sincerely, Jessica Gerrety, Grandaughter of Bruno Yoka
Just Graduated Boot Camp, USN Recruit training command. Shipping to Japan for 4 years... Will be on the USS KITTY HAWK, and were goin to war... God Bless you all.
Jack Meyer told me about this site.
In Honor of my Dad, Paul Otto Schwarz, who served 1943-1945, 96th B.G, 338 SQ. And.....GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!
Great site, my father (Harter B Hull) did 38 missions. Passed away in 1975 at the age of 50.
I am looking for information regarding my grandfather who served as a bombardier in the 49th Bomb Squadron, 2nd Bomb Group from 1943-1944. He flew with many different crews aboard many different ships. His name was Lumas Nelson Robinson Jr., but everyone would have known him as "Pete". If you have any information about him, the 49th, or anything else that you think might relevent, please email me. I, in turn, have his complete journal of missions he was on to look through if you happen to be looking for information. Thanks & Gig'em, Scott
Wonderful, Thank you. Sincerely, Leon C. Gall
I am a personal friend of some of the crew that worked on the restoration of My Gal Sal. I really appreciate the tribute to WWII veterans you have here and I hope you keep posting information about My Gal Sal and other WWII Aircraft restorations. Thank You
I HAVE NO WEBSITE BUT SUBMIT THIS COMMENT !!!!~~ being in the service in the second bomb group 20th sq., I was a gunner & camera man for the 2nd bomb gr.; had completed 35 missiones and was on the raid over Persivor refinery in CZECHOSLOVKIA, Aug 29th, 1944, when the 20th squadron lost all of 7 B-17's. I was in Bill Tune's plane ( last 4 # 7159 ) [ tail end Charlie ] lead plane in the group ; shot down by fw. 190's & me 109's. Two men were killed in the B-17 I was in - 159 ball turrett gunner named Joe Marrinello and Lt. Russell Meryik, bombardier. I bailed out - landed near Lt. Flynn co. Pilot helped bring him to the church in Rudice were Joe Merinello and Russell Meryick were buried by a Marie Krivankova and her girl friend. 50 years passed. In 1994 there was a reunion of the men that were on the raid. Also Marie Krivn.. gave Willam Tune the cross that she saved all those years. He came home and could not find the family of the cross that she took off Joe Marinnelo's dog tags - sent the cross to me and my wife and I found (his) sister. She did not want it and told me I could do anything I wanted to do with it. I framed it and had all the crew members' names put on parchment paper with the CROSS hanging on by the wire that he had on his dog tags !!!~~ It is now hanging in this computer room. Through this, Marie and I became good pen palls with a Joe Fliesher becoming my interpreter. He claims he saw me come down when he was only 5- 1/2 years old. Sorry to say Marie Krivankova passed away in 1999. May the good lord bless Marie, Joe, and Russell. Crew Member of B-17 159, WW11, JOSEPH OWSIANIK ,camera man on the plane
I was a member of the 631St. Engineers Light Equipment Co. activated in Camp Breckenridge Ky. July 1943, and deactivated in Luzon, Philippines, Nov,26,1945. My unit served in ETO and PTO. Earned 5 battle stars Normandy, Central Europe, Northern France, Ardennes, Rhineland and a Meterious Service Plaque. After the war in Europe was sent to Luzon, Philippines.
My father was Walter R. Siner, 306BG, 369BS 'Fightin Bitin' Pilot of B-17G "How Soon". We owe them all a debt we can never repay. Love and luck to you all.
Nice site. Even though I´m working as after sales service manager of heavy trucks, I can't imagine how many hours the restoration takes!!!In August 29, 1944, there was a battle over Slavicin (the town where I was born and therefore I'm very interested in the aircraft history of WWII. Nine B-17G's and one B-24 fell down around Slavicin at that time. 41 flyers were killed; 28 of them buried in the Slavicin cemetery. I'm in touch with two members of this event- Mr. Loy Dickinson (loy@denvertest.com, www.2ndbombgroup.org- navigator of "Tail end Charlie", No.159 and Mr. Joe Owsianik (jerseyjoeows@aol.com)- camera men of the same crew. Believe me, for me it is very emotional to speak to them because they are still sending me more and more information about their stories and I feel that I speak to the people which are a part of the history of our country. So that way I want to give thanks to all American people who were fighting for peace during WWII. I wish to you good luck during this restoration!!! How many B-17's are still flying all around the world??? Many thanks Roman Susil, Czech republic
My grandfather, Robert Terrey flew B-17's over Italy during WWII. It shaped who he was, and I think it has shaped me and my family as well. As the election draws near, and the two year anniversary of my grandfather's death approaches, I am reminded of the stories he told me, and how he always believed in fighting for what was right, and for his country. War is not easy, and many lives are lost, but that is why we our country is what it is today. I wish the anti-war supporters could have been there in 1945 when we liberated Nazi death camps, or even on the beaches at Normandy....or had a grandfather who sat them down and told them what war is really about. I am glad that I have those memories of my grandfather. Thank you for putting your memories on display and for allowing others to share theirs as well!
I have always liked the aircraft of WW-2 and the B-17 is my favorite.
Looks very good. Is it possible to view this restoration.
A hello to Jack D. Keller and all of you. I would hope that there is at least a movie or video in the works of your work in the restoration process along with information about all of you personally to go along with the technical aspects of the project. All of you are to be honored for your efforts and sacrifices. Appreciate Jack's thoughts and emails as to how things are going. My best and may God Bless!
Aerophilia is a hereditary disease: I got from my father, who, I'm happy to say, at age 78 still suffers from it.
Brilliant work guys, keep up the great website! Maurie
My uncle was Sgt. Welcome L. Talbot-ID #16039701--a gunner on a B-17 that crashed in the Bay of Biscay on November 17, 1942. The crew was from the 341st Bomber Squadron, 97th Bomber Grp. Also on board was Gen Asa N. Duncan (first 8th AAF commander.) They were enroute to the 15thAAF in Algeria. Only two bodies were recovered--Maj. J. Knox and the bombardier. Would love to hear from any one who might have information regarding this. Thanks
Great site. My great uncle, William (Bill) Robert Bowers was a tail-gunner on a B-17, 97th Bomb Group, 340th Bombardment Squadron. Bomber was said to be called the Thunderbird, named after Thunderbird Field where he trained. Have a good picture of he and his crew, but no one is identified. He has a cast on his leg, was shot in the foot, and has a Thunderbird patch on his shoulder. Was part of the 8th, 12th, and 15th Airforce. Flew out of England and Africa. Born and raised in Knoxville, Tennessee and moved to Florida after the war. Died 8 Nov. 1985. Would really like to find his fellow crewmates, mission logs, etc. Will be glad to share photo of Uncle Robert and his crew. No nose art can be seen on the bomber.
This is an impressive sight. I can't wait to see the finished product.
I would like to see this project. Is this a possibility?
My father, M. W. Del Re, Jr., was a B-17 navigator (in the 379th Bomb Group) who was shot down over France in WWII. He was a POW for 18 months. He attended the 379th's reunion in Dayton OH in September, 2004. I am a retired B-52D pilot who was stationed at Laredo, McCoy, March, Loring, and Hahn.
My father-in-law, T\Sgt George A. Ganem, #18011642 ,was in the 96th.BG 338th.BS stationed at Snetterton England. On July 10 1943 he was loaned to the crew of a Capt. Flagg on a B-17 called “Wabbit Twaks”. Their target was Lebourget France. I would like any information on this mission and the crew. The next mission my father-in-law flew, was July 28th with his own crew on their B-17 “Paper Doll”. They had to ditch in the North Sea, and were picked up by the Germans and spent the rest of the war in Stalag 17-B. He did not know about the ribbons he had earned on his previous mission to Lebourget France.
I am a WWII aircraft and history buff dealing primarily with historical aircraft crashes and history about heavy bombers especially B-17's. I am deeply moved with your website and its application to the past and present of our great country. thanks Pat Blackburn Associate member of the 97th. Bomb Group Reunion Association
I ran the Flying Fortress Assn in England in the 90's, great work, you should be so proud of what you've achieved. The impossible just takes a little longer!
Thank you one and all, I do remember
When are you folks going to get around to updating the restoration progress of My Gal Sal, since there have been NO UPDATES since December 12th, 2003?? And what is the progress of the building where she is going to be displayed, and when is the display going to be open to the public?? Thank You! Mark D. Braun
Thank you so much for sharing your time and this wonderful aircraft with me and the rest of the guests of Ardd & Winter on our recent trip. I am amazed at the detail in the restoration of this great airplane, as well as the other vintage vehicles you have in your museum. I am anxious to continue to follow the progress, and cannot wait to return and see it again. You are a true American Patriot, and I am honored to have shared time with you and your memorabilia. The passion with which you share your stories of your expedition, and your commitment to preserving this crucial time in our country's history is truly and inspiration. THANK YOU !!!!
Dear Bob. Thank you for the show of the plane and the stories about it. This is something that when you are done you and all who helped you will remember for all your lives. Years from now people will still see the plane and read the story. In St. Joseph their is a museum about the pony express. This is that kind of story.
Thank you
Chuck Coffey
nice website...
Thank you for the opportunity to view "My Gal Sal". Looking at the restored parts in the hanger can not do justice to what will surely be a moving emotional sight for many Americans when completely assembled.
My Uncle Freddy was lost while bailing out of a stricken Halifax over the English Channel in march 1945 a few weeks before the war ended , at age 21 . he was my fathers younger brother .
I loved the words of your eulogy on the front page . Helps me to remember my uncle and the thousands like him who died young for our sake .
just reading some of guest that told there commentes .!!!~~ I WAS ONE of the lucky ones that managed to survied MISSION 263 in TAIL END CHARLIE on AUG 29 19 44 i was with the 15th air forice 20th squadron 2nd bomb group I was a CAMEREA MAN on a B17 which was the lead plane of the 27 b17;s that wear put up on that day , I have a picture of the plain that I went down over CZECHO. We were attacked buy 70 fighters from the rear they were lined up like a set of staires we were the last group of some 500 plaines that were put up that day THE name for the B17 was rightfulliey named the bomberdiar and the ball turrett were killed in the plane . I COULD GO ON FOR HOURES but ites getting late if any one would like to here more just EMAIL me at my email ALL IN ALL THERE WERE 30 some odd men that payed the altimute price on that mission, there are so many thinges i could say but it would take the reast of nite now that im up in age i sometimes wonder if i would jump out of a B7 (OR)any other plane at the hight of 29;000 feet it was all over in a matter of minutes brcame a P. O .W. marched 650miles liberated by the 101 infantry 10 miles from were the russianes MET up with the americanes at torngo this is the price i had to pay for the freedom I have to day but the B17 ; i have to say were one of the best had the honnor of going through the MEMPHIS BEL the one that toures the USA WISHING YOU the best on your restoration i hope i could see it some day but thates asking a littleto much i compleated 35 missionms joe owsianik PRO. O SHE AN IK
I have loved aviation since I was a child. I have been with the Air- FORCE for 21 years,as a flying crew-chief and jet-engine mechanic.I honor the brave and fearless man and women of all aviation past and present.This web-site helps remind me of the many sacrifices made by all those who perished or were injured.How could anyone not enjoy climbing into a cockpit and bouncing around the big blue heavens.I know I sure do!!!!
TO ANYONE WHO REAds this im looking for any information about my grandfather who was at normandy and st lo he died before i had a chance to talk to him about it and ive become an avid reader on anything about the two. if anyone knew him or anything about his army carreer please contact me. he also recieved the bronze star and purple heart...thank you very much
As a WWII war baby I have always looked to the sky. Since my earliest memories I have loved the old warbirds. Maybe in a past life I was over Berlin in a B-17. Fact is no one can ever thank you folks enough for the effort, and love your group put forth bringing this wonderful old bird back to life. The generation that flew these planes are passing every day, but your work leaves a living tribute for the future! Thank you for letting me THANK YOU!
Great work! Just wanted to take a moment to mourn the passing of Col. Robert Morgan PIC of the Memphis Belle
Thanks Bill for leading me to this site. You all have done a fantastic job on this aircraft.
Visited Tillamook Museum last year. Very impressed since I volunteer at Tennessee Museum of Aviation in Sevierville, TN. Thanks for your tremendous efforts and keep up the good works. Greg
I signed your book a year ago, my dad died on the 28th of April. Never was sick after he got into the army. Died of cancer. During the war he was with the 96th 337th. He was at Snetterton Heath Jan45 to Sep45. He had orders to head for the pacific in july45. He also served during the Korean war. I wish he had been more involved in sites like these. He was a writer and would have been a plus...
This is my first time to view this article on the computer, but it will not be my last. I am so glad I found it. I was in the 15th A.A.F. stationed in Foggia, Italy, or Amendola, whichever you prefer. I was in the --96th Sq, of the 2nd bomb GP, commanded by Col. Rice. We took the very first B17G into Italy on Xmas day 1943. It was the "Fifty Packin Mama," and Col Rice took it for his own personal plane. It went on to be quite a famous plane, after the war was over, so I have read in the 2nd Bombardment Assn, newsletter. We were given his old plane "Wolfpack" and flew her for a great number of missions, as I recall over 40 of them. We were shot down on 2/24/44 on the Steyr Aus. mission. This web site is just great and keep up the good work on the restoration of "SAL" Thanks again for a very good website.
Visited B17 display today 5/22/2004 and found it very well done and quite interesting. I will spread the word of your excellant commitment to such a project.
You might be interested in a P-51-H restoration. aeromuseum.gov
Great site and great work restoring Sal!! Keep up the great work.
Am not sure anyone can help-but have to start somewhere...am looking for anyone (or some way) to find info on my Uncle who flew a B-24 or 26 (Army) in 1944-"Shady Lady" was the name of his plane. He was co-pilot. Whole crew was killed on ground by German soldier after landing damaged plane. His name was Lt. Sydney Alexander Benson-out of McCook, Nebraska. Died June 29,1944. Never knew him-but named for him...(long before it was popular!!) (I happen to be female.) would love to find out what he was like-he was so young when he died that my Mom (his sister) has only childhood memories-am hoping someone might remember him...so that I may.. or at least tell me where to start looking. Thank you ...I hope to hear from someone.
great site very nice site.
My great grandfather was in the Army Air Corp in WWI. He flew border patrol in California, Canada to Mexico. He was involved in a plane crash with a Navy plane. He was the only survivor. Any information would be helpful! His name was Roy Farmer
Good web work. Keep it up.......
unsung heroes to be true
Fantastic site!! I love to see these Warbirds being re-done. I am looking forward to this upcoming season of air shows in my area.
The site is beautiful, especially to me. I am the niece of Thomas Laskowski and the family eagerly awaits the dedication of this wonderful memorial to My Gal Sal. We have the trip planned !! Just need you to keep up your unwaivering commitment to the challenge of this project. Many people are grateful to you for your dedication.
I was at your presentation at Northern Ky University and enjoyed it very much. I would like to visit Blue Ash Airport to see the plane. How can I go about this?
Fantastic!!Keep up the good work. RWB
The web site I have submitted is related to WW1. You may or may not be interested in it. However there is a wealth of information there. The link which I have included is information I submitted about my grandfather's service with the 77th Division, WW1, Camp Upton. He (SGT. Charles Riley) was a SGT. with the 308 Ambulance Company, 302 Sanitary Train, France. You too can research information about the Lost Battalion. Also on the site is invaluable other documented information. I now have a daughter serving in Iraq with the BIG RED ONE (1). It is so important that we all remember all out Veterans everywhere. It is because of their dedicated service that we live in a Free Nation, and will continue to. God Bless All our Veterans Everywhere. Please fight to keep their VA Hospitals open. It was recently announced that our VA Center here may go to Nursing Home Facility only. And we have a replica of The WALL. So sad. The Van Zant Hospital.
Hello, I loved the site and I'm doing a project on World War II, tactics in the Pacific Theater. I would appreciate any information you have about the topic. I would mostly like your opinion on what went on, but anything would be great. Thank You.
My grandfather, Darrell V. Betz, was in the 8th AAF, 305 Bomb Group (H), 422nd Bomb Squadron (H). He was the pilot of a B-17G #44-6304, stationed out of Chelveston, England. The name of his plane was the "Chain Gang". He was the only survivor after the plane was hit by flak enroute to Leipzig, Germany on August 16, 1944. The plane crashed near Jena, Germany. In November 2003, my father, my brother and I went to Germany to trace his footsteps, as he was a POW, picked up after he bailed out of the plane. We were able to locate the field where the plane went down, as well as the location of the POW camp he was in until the end of WWII. My family is interested in finding the 10th crew member, who was transferred to another unit before they went on their last flight. His name is George Udjer, please contact me if anyone remembers George or my grandpa. Grandpa died in 1985, I miss him more than words can say.
I'm just a guy who loves aviation and has a deep appreciation for technology that enables a collection of various machine parts, wires and fluids to fly, and for the people who keep these machines flying!
I saw you speak about "My Gal Sal" at Northern Kentucky University not too long ago and was amazed to hear your story and see the pictures. What a remarkable job you did putting the plane back together! I would love to come see her sometime!
Looking good! I love the B-17. It is my all time favorite aircraft. Graceful, yet durable. Good luck with the restoration.
Great site. I am sure the crew is looking down and one happy bunch. Keep it up
We owe these vets so much for what they did for us and the world.
WOW! What a great site and inspired efforts on the part of all to bring “My Gal Sal” back to life. I vividly remember reading the LIFE article on her in 1964, the time of TV’s “Twelve o’ Clock High” and Revell’s model kit of the “Memphis Belle.” As a ten-year old fascinated by World War II history, I fell in love with the B-17’s elegant lines. As I grew older, I came to appreciate the sacrifices of so many men who flew the Forts and other aircraft against the Axis. I still have as a life’s goal standing before the “Belle” on Mud Island, and now I have another: to pay tribute to “Sal” just as soon as she’s ready to receive visitors. God bless you all, as well as those who fought, suffered and died so that we could keep our freedom.
Proud daughter of Stan Varner, the engine guy! What a great thing to do for the veterans. More things like this should be done.
Fabulous job! My father was a fill in crew member on B-17's during WWII. He was never assigned to a regular crew, but because he was a radio operator and trained as a gunner he would occassionally fill in for a sick or disabled crewman. He was in Biskra (North Africa) and Foggia, Italy with the 15th Air Force ( I believe 97th Bomb Group, 5th Bomb Wing). I have photos of him with "Fuddy Duddy" and "Nine-O-Nine". Wish he had lived long enough to see your project completed.
My Dad was a top turret gunner in WWII (Germany), and one of the original crewman on My Gal Sal. If anyone knew my Dad please contact me. My son is currently serving in the USMC, and fought in Iraq. I think my son would like to know more about the grandfather he never met.
Thanks, Rich Eresman NJ
Wanted to find a book about the restoration of the Greenland Plane for a very dear friend.
This is a great site. My kids and I have been to the Air Force Museum in Dayton several times and love to talk about and see these treasures! Keep up the great work!!
Neat site!! My brother lives in Loveland, Ohio and sent me this site. I would really like to see this next time we get down to see him--You are preserving a great part of our history as Americans--Thank you--Bruce Dodenhoff
Just checking to see how things are going. Were amazed by the last pictures Bob Ready sent Harry.
My whole life, since I was a child, I've been fascinated by the heroics of the average soldier and airman in World War II. I am lucky to live in a place were it is common to see Pearl Harbor survivors, Purple Heart recipients, and Medal of Honor license plates every day. I often stop and talk to these heroes. I thank them and tell them how proud it makes me to have met them. Now there are new heroes from the terrorist wars around and I also try to meet and let them know what it means to my family and myself the sacrifice that they have given. I want to thank you because you also are doing just as great a service to your country as they have. I used to dream of finding old crashes also, but unfortunately I only dreamt about it while you have actually sacrificed your time, money and comfort to recover these treasures. Don't worry about restoring them to flying condition, it would be wonderful but then you risk the chance of losing them once again to another accident. Thank you again and keep up the good work.
Great Site. My dad trained as a mechanic for B-29's back in the mid 50's so I know that he would really enjoy this. May your endeavors continue to grow so that those who come after us may not forget the sacrifices of those who went before us. Robert Kosusnik
This is a great site, and very helpful. This is a great site.
Please give my regards to Jack Keller for relating the restoration project and the website. Jack signed the book "One Lucky Bastard" for me and at the AF Museum this September. Jack, if you read this, thanks, and I did finish the marathon the next day.
Currently deployed to Tallil, Iraq
I enjoy the history of these great aircraft and the men who flew them.
This website intrigued me as I am an historian of all kinds of aircraft, and builder of plastic model aircraft, tanks, ships, figures, etc. Your website is of a real value to all who hold freedom close to their hearts, and whom remember the past so that it never repeats itself. If we do not learn from the past we are doomed to repeat it!
Saw the picture of "My Gal Sal" in the 2004 Blue Ash calendar. My Father was an intelligence officer with the 357th Bomb Group stationed in England during WWII. He flew on missions over Germany until they grounded them due to so many losses. B-17's were all I heard about growing up. I have a lot of memories going to air shows at the air base in Oletha KS, where he was in the reserves. My dad, Frank Taylor is quoted in the book, The Flack Dodgers. Good luck with your project. I would love for him to see it completed. He is 85, lives in Tucson, AZ.
You guys got a tough job but God bless you for doing it "Keep em flying"
WWII B-17 armor/gunnery-Foggia, Italy. Presently volunteering at the Pima air and space museum. Web site recommended by volunteer at the 390 Bomb Group, 8th Army Air Force. Great Site! Thanks, Lyman Threet
MEMBER. 61st Fighter Squadron, 56th Fighter Group. WW II. (ZEMKE'S "WOLFPACK") 57 Combat Missions over Europe from Sept. '44 thru end of conflict. I "helped" look after many "My Gal Sals". Keep up the great work on "SAL". It will be appreciated.
Always. Russ.
I was just browsing and came upon your site. Great Site. This is a wonderful tribute to the crew, all those who served, especially to those who gave "The Ultimate Sacrifice". A great big thanks to all of you who are restoring MY GAL SAL- Well Done. My father flew B-29's with the Early Crews in China-Burma-India, then later to Tinian, 35 missions: 20th AF, 58th BW, 462nd Bombardment Group, and 768th Squadron. His aircraft had a huge Chinese Dragon and the name of "DING HAO" on the nose, and they were part of the HELLBIDS (Triangle-U and Red rudder). He told me a few stories and I would love to hear more from anyone who may have flown in that Pacific Theater, and/or with him or his group. God Bless to all, keep up the Great work.
I visited your site earlier this year with VADM Ryan, President of MOAA and was most impressed with your work and display.
Referred to this website by the good Mr. Jack D. Keller.
God Bless Everyone of you guys. Keep up the good work.
My father George Rader was a navigator / bombardier with the 15th AF, 301st Bomb Group, 419th Bomb Squad. He was in North Africa and Foggia Italy flying 52 missions. His plane was "Maybe Baby". I thank you for honoring all of our brave, who gave so much of themselves so we could live in freedom. I would greatly appreciate any info that anyone has about my dad.
Thank you again so much,
Sam Rader
Keep up the good work! My father was a lead pilot in the 305th Bomb Group;422nd Bomb Squadron, triangle G, based at Chelveston, England from June 1944 to Sept 1944. His name was Lt. Perry A. Schreffler and flew a B-17G named " Sweet Seventeen ". We lost him last year and he was buried at Arlington National Cemetery with my mom; and too, his Co-Pilot Lt. Donald Sherman. I now have his hanger at Santa Paula, California. In the hanger there is a side room with many many artifacts from B-17Gs he collected over the years. Flight books, flight training tapes, fight crew gear, a yoke wheel from a cockpit, wheel chocks, and all his flight gear including flight maps from his tour and log books, and many more. I got a ride in a B-17G in the right seat with him in the left seat in the 1960's.What you are doing is so special for the B-17's were a marvel of our ability to not let our way of life be taken away. So many lost doing their job for us today on this end will never be forgotten. "CAN DO" forever. Please keep me informed on the progress of "My Gal Sal". I would like to fly over to see the aircraft if possible. Sincerely Yours, Kerry Schreffler
Bob, your restoration and display of "My Gal Sal" is the very best. Your attention to detail is superb. I'm sure all the "Boys" up stairs are proud of you. Thanks again for taking time to give Tommy G. and I a personal tour. Hal
Your website is beautifully decorated and easily navigated. I have enjoyed visiting this site today and hope to visit many more times in the future.